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Erdoğan's own column says abolish the veto; the Jerusalem Post's sources say he has eyed the UN's top job for Fidan — Turkish officials "strongly deny"

Two reports, three hours apart on the day the General Assembly opened its debate. One is built on a column the Turkish president signed. The other rests on people it does not name, and carries the denial in a single sentence.

Ердоган закликав скасувати право вето постійних членів Радбезу ООН
Ердоган закликав скасувати право вето постійних членів Радбезу ООН as published by Espreso TV · seen at Espreso TV

Two reports, three hours apart, sharing no fact. Both are about Turkey and the United Nations on the day the General Assembly opened its general debate. Neither mentions the other's subject.

A signed column. Espreso TV reports that Erdoğan, writing for Bloomberg, proposed a Security Council with no permanent members at all — every seat elected by the General Assembly for a fixed term, on rotation, with any state seeking a second mandate needing a fresh majority. Espreso TV names the five that hold the veto now — the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France — and quotes his slogan: "The world is bigger than five."

Unnamed sources. The Jerusalem Post reports that sources familiar with the matter told it Erdoğan has considered nominating Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan as secretary-general several times. Its headline hedges the plan as "may push" and states flat that it is "causing concern in Israel"; the text we hold quotes nobody there saying so. The denial is one sentence: "Turkish officials strongly deny any such plan."

Espreso TV The Jerusalem Post
Subject abolishing the veto who runs the UN
Sourced to Erdoğan's signed column "sources familiar with the matter"
Named Erdoğan; five veto states no source, either side
Denial none carried one sentence, unnamed

Not settled. Whether the second story exists. One report carries each claim; we hold no second account of either, and not the column itself — only a Ukrainian outlet's report of it. Nobody is named confirming the nomination, and nobody is named denying it.

This is a story about who gets to decide at the United Nations — and, separately, about who might run it.

How it got here. The UN was founded in 1945, and its Charter gave five states permanent seats on the Security Council with a veto over its decisions: the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France. The other ten seats are elected by the General Assembly for two-year terms. Changing any of that means amending the Charter, and an amendment cannot take effect without the agreement of all five veto holders — which is why reform proposals have gone nowhere for decades. Turkey, a NATO member since 1952, has pressed the case for years; "the world is bigger than five" is Erdoğan's long-running slogan for it, and the Espreso TV report has him repeating it. What is new in that report is the shape of the demand: not more permanent seats, but none.

The second job. The secretary-general is appointed by the General Assembly on the recommendation of the Security Council, so the same five can block a candidate. António Guterres's second five-year term ends on 31 December 2026, which is why a name attached to the post now is news at all.

Who they are. Erdoğan has led Turkey since 2003, as prime minister and then as president. Hakan Fidan has been his foreign minister since 2023, and before that ran Turkey's intelligence service for more than a decade. The Jerusalem Post is an Israeli paper; it reports the prospect of his candidacy as causing concern in Israel, and names nobody there.

What is at stake. Abolishing the veto would move decisions on wars, sanctions and peacekeeping from five capitals to elected majorities — and cannot happen without those five agreeing to give it up. A Turkish secretary-general would need the recommendation of that same Council.

Where it stands. Espreso TV reports the high-level debate running to Saturday 27 September and resuming on Monday 28 September. The nomination claim stands reported and denied inside one report.

What is being argued about

  • Erdoğan's proposal to abolish the veto and elect every Security Council seat on rotation
  • An unnamed-sourced claim that Fidan has been considered for secretary-general, denied in the same report
  • How each claim is sourced: a signed column against people who are not named
  • What we do not hold — the column itself, and any second account of either claim
Two claims, two kinds of sourcingSide by side
Espreso TVThe Jerusalem Post
What it claimsErdoğan called for the veto to be abolished and for a Council with no permanent members, all seats elected by the General Assembly on rotationErdoğan has considered nominating Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan as UN secretary-general several times
Where the claim comes froma column Erdoğan wrote for Bloomberg"sources familiar with the matter"
People namedErdoğan; the five veto holders — the United States, Russia, China, Britain and FranceErdoğan and Fidan; no source on either side
Hedged?stated flat, in his own words"may push" in the headline; "causing concern in Israel" stated flat
Denial carriednone"Turkish officials strongly deny any such plan" — one sentence, no office, no quote
Second account we holdnonenone
Both reports were published on 22 September. Neither carries the other's subject.
Sources E Espreso TV
Centre estimate · not a score
Espreso TV 🇺🇦UA · digital · Ердоган закликав скасувати право вето постійних членів Радбезу ООН Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Espreso TV → What we have measured Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the shift to combat use. ×1Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the data-centre strike. Nobody is named behind the DDoS attack. ×1Actor named for the decision Names the EU Council as the body that acted and gives the date and the new expiry date. ×1Adopted wording The company's own word 'minor' sits next to the report's flat statement that customers could not send or receive parcels. ×1 from 3655 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
The Jerusalem Post
Centre-right estimate · not a score
The Jerusalem Post 🇮🇱IL · newspaper · independent Turkey's Erdogan may push for FM Fidan to take over UN Sec.-Gen. role, causing concern in Israel Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at The Jerusalem Post → What we have measured A count the body does not carry the headline says eight countries; the sentence names seven foreign ministers ×1Actor framing The Gulf ministers are the ones acting. Iran is the party they meet. ×1Actor generalised The headline has 'Baghdad' celebrating. The photo caption says the crowd is supporters of one armed group. ×1Actor named names the militias and calls the act 'desecration', in its own voice ×1 from 4111 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
One day, two Turkeys at the UNTimeline
  1. Tue 22 Sep— no time published the General Assembly opened the general debate of its 81st session in New York, Espreso TV reports more than 130 heads of state and governmentpresided over by Bangladesh's Khalilur Rahman
  2. Tue 22 Sep14:11 printed on the page Espreso TV reports that Erdoğan, in a column for Bloomberg, called for a Security Council with no permanent members and no veto 5 veto holders named"The world is bigger than five"
  3. Tue 22 Sep15:52 printed on the page The Jerusalem Post reports that sources familiar with the matter say Erdoğan has considered nominating Fidan as secretary-general, and that Turkish officials deny it 0 named sourcesdenial: one sentence
Times are those printed by the outlets.
Sources E Espreso TV
Centre estimate · not a score
Espreso TV 🇺🇦UA · digital · Ердоган закликав скасувати право вето постійних членів Радбезу ООН Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Espreso TV → What we have measured Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the shift to combat use. ×1Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the data-centre strike. Nobody is named behind the DDoS attack. ×1Actor named for the decision Names the EU Council as the body that acted and gives the date and the new expiry date. ×1Adopted wording The company's own word 'minor' sits next to the report's flat statement that customers could not send or receive parcels. ×1 from 3655 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
The Jerusalem Post
Centre-right estimate · not a score
The Jerusalem Post 🇮🇱IL · newspaper · independent Turkey's Erdogan may push for FM Fidan to take over UN Sec.-Gen. role, causing concern in Israel Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at The Jerusalem Post → What we have measured A count the body does not carry the headline says eight countries; the sentence names seven foreign ministers ×1Actor framing The Gulf ministers are the ones acting. Iran is the party they meet. ×1Actor generalised The headline has 'Baghdad' celebrating. The photo caption says the crowd is supporters of one armed group. ×1Actor named names the militias and calls the act 'desecration', in its own voice ×1 from 4111 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
The bias in this coverageBias

A published column, and people who are not named

One report sources the proposal to abolish the veto to a column the president wrote and names the five states that hold it. The other rests its claim on sources familiar with the matter, carries a denial from unnamed officials, and names nobody on either side of it. The two reports share no fact.

1 reports naming where the proposal was published 1 reports resting on unnamed sources 0 named people confirming the candidacy claim 1 reports carrying the denial

Who is concerned is not said

The headline hedges the plan with 'may push' and then states the concern it causes as fact. No one in the country said to be concerned is quoted or named in the report. The denial is carried, in five words, after the claim.

0 people quoted expressing concern 1 hedges on the plan in the headline 0 hedges on the reaction in the same headline
Scored without the mastheads. Where the two passes differ, both are kept.
Sources E Espreso TV
Centre estimate · not a score
Espreso TV 🇺🇦UA · digital · Ердоган закликав скасувати право вето постійних членів Радбезу ООН Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Espreso TV → What we have measured Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the shift to combat use. ×1Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the data-centre strike. Nobody is named behind the DDoS attack. ×1Actor named for the decision Names the EU Council as the body that acted and gives the date and the new expiry date. ×1Adopted wording The company's own word 'minor' sits next to the report's flat statement that customers could not send or receive parcels. ×1 from 3655 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
The Jerusalem Post
Centre-right estimate · not a score
The Jerusalem Post 🇮🇱IL · newspaper · independent Turkey's Erdogan may push for FM Fidan to take over UN Sec.-Gen. role, causing concern in Israel Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at The Jerusalem Post → What we have measured A count the body does not carry the headline says eight countries; the sentence names seven foreign ministers ×1Actor framing The Gulf ministers are the ones acting. Iran is the party they meet. ×1Actor generalised The headline has 'Baghdad' celebrating. The photo caption says the crowd is supporters of one armed group. ×1Actor named names the militias and calls the act 'desecration', in its own voice ×1 from 4111 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →

Claims and verdicts

unverified Erdoğan called for the Security Council veto to be abolished and for a Council with no permanent members, all seats elected by the General Assembly on rotation.
One report, Espreso TV, carries it, citing a column Erdoğan wrote for Bloomberg; we do not hold the column itself or any second report of it. No report we hold contradicts it.
Checked against 1 source:
E Espreso TV
Centre estimate · not a score
Espreso TV 🇺🇦UA · digital · Ердоган закликав скасувати право вето постійних членів Радбезу ООН Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Espreso TV → What we have measured Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the shift to combat use. ×1Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the data-centre strike. Nobody is named behind the DDoS attack. ×1Actor named for the decision Names the EU Council as the body that acted and gives the date and the new expiry date. ×1Adopted wording The company's own word 'minor' sits next to the report's flat statement that customers could not send or receive parcels. ×1 from 3655 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
disputed Erdoğan has considered nominating Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan for UN secretary-general.
The Jerusalem Post reports unnamed sources familiar with the matter saying he has considered it several times, and in the same report Turkish officials strongly deny any such plan. No other report we hold mentions a Turkish candidate.
Checked against 1 source:
The Jerusalem Post
Centre-right estimate · not a score
The Jerusalem Post 🇮🇱IL · newspaper · independent Turkey's Erdogan may push for FM Fidan to take over UN Sec.-Gen. role, causing concern in Israel Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at The Jerusalem Post → What we have measured A count the body does not carry the headline says eight countries; the sentence names seven foreign ministers ×1Actor framing The Gulf ministers are the ones acting. Iran is the party they meet. ×1Actor generalised The headline has 'Baghdad' celebrating. The photo caption says the crowd is supporters of one armed group. ×1Actor named names the militias and calls the act 'desecration', in its own voice ×1 from 4111 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
unverified The 81st General Assembly's general debate opened on 22 September with more than 130 heads of state and government attending.
Only Espreso TV carries the attendance figure and the detail that Bangladesh's Khalilur Rahman is presiding. No other report we hold on this event gives a number.
Checked against 1 source:
E Espreso TV
Centre estimate · not a score
Espreso TV 🇺🇦UA · digital · Ердоган закликав скасувати право вето постійних членів Радбезу ООН Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Espreso TV → What we have measured Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the shift to combat use. ×1Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the data-centre strike. Nobody is named behind the DDoS attack. ×1Actor named for the decision Names the EU Council as the body that acted and gives the date and the new expiry date. ×1Adopted wording The company's own word 'minor' sits next to the report's flat statement that customers could not send or receive parcels. ×1 from 3655 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →

Who wrote it

I Idan Kweller The Jerusalem Post
What the bias passes found in their reporting
Headline against body headline says denies; the body says the statement rejected claims×1
Headline against body headline says denies; body says the statement rejected claims×1
How the denial is placed the denial is one sentence, last, unquoted and unnamed, against a sourced claim above it×1
How the quotation is rendered the Gaza line quoted in a short form, paired with a condemnation of the attack that preceded it×1
Claims we checked that rest on their reporting
4 disputed2 unverified2 true
From 114 reports we hold under this byline, at The Jerusalem Post. Two independent readings, each made without the masthead, a quote attached to every tag. A record, never a rating. Their full record →
О Олена Будько Espreso TV
What the bias passes found in their reporting
Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the data-centre strike. Nobody is named behind the DDoS attack.×1
Adopted wording The company's own word 'minor' sits next to the report's flat statement that customers could not send or receive parcels.×1
Aircraft revision records that the aircraft was first misidentified×1
Aircraft type changed Records that the aircraft was first identified as a different type.×1
Claims we checked that rest on their reporting
1 misleading1 disputed4 unverified2 true
From 256 reports we hold under this byline, at Espreso TV. Two independent readings, each made without the masthead, a quote attached to every tag. A record, never a rating. Their full record →
The bylines on the reports this story is built from. Hover one for what our passes have measured on their reporting.

Coverage, outlet by outlet

The Jerusalem Post
Centre-right estimate · not a score
The Jerusalem Post 🇮🇱IL · newspaper · independent Turkey's Erdogan may push for FM Fidan to take over UN Sec.-Gen. role, causing concern in Israel Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at The Jerusalem Post → What we have measured A count the body does not carry the headline says eight countries; the sentence names seven foreign ministers ×1Actor framing The Gulf ministers are the ones acting. Iran is the party they meet. ×1Actor generalised The headline has 'Baghdad' celebrating. The photo caption says the crowd is supporters of one armed group. ×1Actor named names the militias and calls the act 'desecration', in its own voice ×1 from 4111 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
— independent
The only report we hold that mentions a Turkish candidate for secretary-general — and the only one carrying the Turkish denial.
How the denial is placed: the denial is one sentence, last, unquoted and unnamed, against a sourced claim above it — “Turkish officials strongly deny any such plan.”
Where the claim comes from: the central claim rests entirely on people who are not named, and describes a repeated consideration rather than an act — “Sources familiar with the matter told the Post that Erdogan has considered nominating Turkey's foreign minister several times.”
What is hedged and what is flat: the plan itself is hedged as 'may push' while the reaction to it is stated as fact in the same headline — “Turkey's Erdogan may push for FM Fidan to take over UN Sec.-Gen. role, causing concern in Israel”
Who is named as acting: the denial is attributed to a group with no name, no office and no quoted words — “Turkish officials strongly deny any such plan.”
What is hedged: a possible intention in the headline, with an effect on a third country asserted flat beside it — “Turkey's Erdogan may push for FM Fidan to take over UN Sec.-Gen. role, causing concern in Israel”
Whose voice is quoted: the claim rests entirely on unnamed sources, and on a repeated consideration rather than a step taken — “Sources familiar with the matter told the Post that Erdogan has considered nominating Turkey's foreign minister several times.”
Read it at The Jerusalem Post → https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-909313
E Espreso TV
Centre estimate · not a score
Espreso TV 🇺🇦UA · digital · Ердоган закликав скасувати право вето постійних членів Радбезу ООН Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Espreso TV → What we have measured Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the shift to combat use. ×1Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the data-centre strike. Nobody is named behind the DDoS attack. ×1Actor named for the decision Names the EU Council as the body that acted and gives the date and the new expiry date. ×1Adopted wording The company's own word 'minor' sits next to the report's flat statement that customers could not send or receive parcels. ×1 from 3655 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
—
The only report we hold of the column: no permanent members, every seat elected on rotation, the five veto states named, and the debate opening with more than 130 heads of state and government.
Про це він написав у колонці для Bloomberg.Ердоган зазначив, що сучасна система ухвалення глобальних рішень більше не відповідає реаліям світу, оскільки ключові рішення залежать від позицій "жменьки столиць".Турецький президент вважає, що розширення складу постійних членів Радбезу не розв’яже проблему концентрації влади. Натомість, на його думку, це лише поширить привілейовану модель на нові держави.З огляду на це Ердоган запропонував створити систему, в якій не буде постійних членів Ради Безпеки, а всіх її членів обиратимн Генеральна Асамблея на визначений термін і на ротаційній основі. Держа
Where the claim comes from: the proposal is sourced to a signed column and the five veto holders are named individually — “Про це він написав у колонці для Bloomberg.”
Whose voice is quoted: three consecutive sentences give the proposal in the president's own terms; no state that would lose its veto is quoted against it — “Ердоган також заявив, що Туреччина продовжить виступати за скасування права вето, посилення ролі обраних членів Ради Безпеки та розширення повноважень Генеральної Асамблеї.”
What the report leaves out: the reform case is reported without the candidacy claim, and the report names no critic of either — “"Світ більший за п’ять", – повторив Ердоган свій заклик до реформування системи”
Whose voice is quoted: the whole case rests on the subject's own newspaper column; no other state is quoted for or against — “Про це він написав у колонці для Bloomberg.”
How the argument is framed: his slogan repeated in the report's own run of sentences, with no counter-argument anywhere — “"Світ більший за п’ять", – повторив Ердоган свій заклик до реформування системи”
What is named: names the five governments the complaint is about, rather than leaving the target vague — “Ердоган зазначив, що сучасна система ухвалення глобальних рішень більше не відповідає реаліям світу, оскільки ключові рішення залежать від позицій "жменьки столиць".”
Read it at Espreso TV → https://espreso.tv/svit-erdogan-zaklikav-skasuvati-pravo-veto-postiynik…
Checked, didn’t cover
International Criminal Court
Spectrum not set estimate · not a score
International Criminal Court INT · official record · intergovernmental body No report held from this outlet on this story. What we have measured Nothing scored yet. We do not carry a rating for any outlet — only what we have measured from published text. Outlet profile in The AI Times →
UN News
Spectrum not set estimate · not a score
UN News INT · official record · intergovernmental body No report held from this outlet on this story. What we have measured Actors named Names both vetoing states and the sponsor, and says what the draft would have created ×1Asserted versus attributed share of women and children among the dead given with no source ×1Asserted vs attributed Israel named as acting, stated in the report's own voice ×1Asymmetric verb The Iranian government's crimes are 'confirmed'. The US finding is only 'reasonable grounds'. The two findings are weighted differently in one sentence. ×1 from 439 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
Silence is recorded, not inferred — each of these was read when we built this story and carried nothing on this event.
We could not read these
International Court of Justice
Spectrum not set estimate · not a score
International Court of Justice INT · official record · intergovernmental body No report held from this outlet on this story. What we have measured Nothing scored yet. We do not carry a rating for any outlet — only what we have measured from published text. Outlet profile in The AI Times →
These are must-cite outlets for this desk that we did not manage to read when we built this story. That is a gap in our reach, not a silence on their part, and it is not evidence of anything about this story.

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