Morning Star: Holyrood backed Scotland's 'right to decide'. The Independent: Reform walked out of a 'farce'
Two reports on one Holyrood debate lead with two different events. The Morning Star reports that MSPs passed John Swinney's motion and does not mention a walkout. The Independent leads with Reform UK leaving the chamber. It was published before the vote, so it gives no result.
What both reports carry. On 22 September, First Minister John Swinney put a motion to the Scottish Parliament that "Scotland is a nation that has a right to decide its own future". Both reports quote him at length.
Where they part.
| Morning Star | The Independent | |
|---|---|---|
| Leads with | The vote: Holyrood "voted to back" the motion | The walkout: Reform MSPs left the chamber |
| Result of the vote | Passed | "Set to be passed" later that day |
| Opposition quoted | Scottish Labour's Michael Marra | Reform's Malcolm Offord |
| Wales and Northern Ireland | Motion followed a deal among the three devolved leaders | Not mentioned |
| UK government | Not quoted | Andy Burnham says a referendum is "off limits" |
Labour's objection. Marra told MSPs, according to the Morning Star, that the debate was "about managing the First Minister's party". He moved an addendum on child poverty.
Reform's objection. Offord said constitutional matters are reserved to Westminster, The Independent reports. When the Presiding Officer refused to cancel the debate, he called it "a farce" and led his MSPs out.
What is not settled. - Neither report gives a vote tally. Only the Morning Star says the motion passed. - Only The Independent reports the walkout. The Morning Star calls the debate "rowdy" but neither confirms nor denies it. - Only the Morning Star reports the agreement with Wales and Northern Ireland. We do not hold its terms.
What this is about. The Scottish Parliament has debated whether Scotland has the right to decide whether it stays in the United Kingdom.
How it got here. - The Scottish Parliament, known as Holyrood, opened in 1999 under the Scotland Act 1998. It makes law on devolved matters such as health, education and justice. The constitution, including the Union itself, is reserved to Westminster. - In 2014 Scotland held an independence referendum with the UK government's agreement. The Independent reports that 55% voted to stay in the UK. - The Scottish National Party (SNP) has governed Scotland since 2007 and has kept asking for a second referendum. UK governments have refused. - In November 2022 the UK Supreme Court ruled that Holyrood cannot legislate for a referendum without Westminster's consent. Since then, a referendum has needed London's agreement.
Who is involved. - John Swinney, SNP leader and First Minister, tabled the motion. - The UK government. The Independent reports that Prime Minister Andy Burnham has said another referendum is "off limits". - Scottish Labour, led at Holyrood by Michael Marra, says the SNP has the wrong priorities. - Reform UK, led in Scotland by Malcolm Offord, says Holyrood should not debate the question at all. - Wales and Northern Ireland. They have their own devolved governments. The Morning Star reports that their leaders agreed with Swinney to demand powers to hold constitutional referendums.
What is at stake. A Holyrood motion does not change the law. The power to call a referendum stays with Westminster. What the motion can do is put a formal statement from the Scottish Parliament on the record. If the three devolved governments do act together, the question stops being only Scotland's and becomes one about how power is shared across the UK.
Where it stands. The Morning Star reports that the motion passed on 22 September. We hold no tally and no response from the UK government after the vote.
What is being argued about
- Whether Holyrood passed Swinney's 'right to decide' motion, and by what margin
- Reform UK's walkout and its argument that the constitution is reserved to Westminster
- Scottish Labour's claim that the debate served the SNP, not voters
- A reported agreement among the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish leaders to seek referendum powers
Claims and verdicts
Holyrood backs Scotland’s ‘right to decide’
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What we have measured
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The Independent
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Holyrood backs Scotland’s ‘right to decide’
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Read it at Morning Star →
What we have measured
Anyone hurt counted the only report that carries a civilian death; the person is counted, not named ×1Anyone hurt counted Moscow region dead given by age and sex, attributed to the regional governor ×1A speaker's epithet carried in the reporter's "sugar daddies" used to describe the donors outside the quotation ×1Asserted flat, not attributed a contested political claim written as an established fact ×1
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Holyrood backs Scotland’s ‘right to decide’
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What we have measured
Anyone hurt counted the only report that carries a civilian death; the person is counted, not named ×1Anyone hurt counted Moscow region dead given by age and sex, attributed to the regional governor ×1A speaker's epithet carried in the reporter's "sugar daddies" used to describe the donors outside the quotation ×1Asserted flat, not attributed a contested political claim written as an established fact ×1
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Holyrood backs Scotland’s ‘right to decide’
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Read it at Morning Star →
What we have measured
Anyone hurt counted the only report that carries a civilian death; the person is counted, not named ×1Anyone hurt counted Moscow region dead given by age and sex, attributed to the regional governor ×1A speaker's epithet carried in the reporter's "sugar daddies" used to describe the donors outside the quotation ×1Asserted flat, not attributed a contested political claim written as an established fact ×1
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