Russia's defence ministry says it 'liberated' five settlements; Ukraine's Third Corps says it 'liberated' villages it will not name
On 19 September both armies said they had taken ground in Donetsk region, in different sectors. Each used the same word for its own gains. Neither side's reports mention the other's claim, and nothing we hold confirms either.
Russia's claim. Regnum and Interfax, citing Russia's defence ministry, say Russian forces took five settlements in a day. The text we hold names two: Hulieve and Marivka, on what the ministry calls the Dobropillia direction. Regnum says Russian forces also advanced in Zaporizhzhia region.
Ukraine's claim. Espreso TV, citing Third Corps chief of staff Horbatenko on Suspilne, says Ukrainian forces took Rai-Oleksandrivka near Lyman this week, plus villages the corps is keeping unnamed on purpose. Espreso says corps commander Andriy Biletskyi puts the first stage at 75 sq km cleared.
| Russia's ministry | Ukraine's Third Corps | |
|---|---|---|
| Sector | Dobropillia | Lyman |
| Places claimed | 5, 2 named | 1 new, others unnamed |
| Word used | 'освободили' (liberated) | 'звільнили' (liberated) |
| Carried by | Regnum, Interfax, RIA Novosti | Espreso TV |
| Casualty figure | none | none |
How it is told. Regnum's report and Espreso's headline both say 'liberated' in their own voice before crediting the military. Interfax calls occupied Donetsk region the 'DNR' without saying it is occupied. Obozrevatel says Putin's deadline for taking the Donbas has been pushed back indefinitely, and gives no source.
What is not settled. Whether either side holds the ground it claims. Which three settlements Russia has not named in the text we hold. Which villages Ukraine will not name. What either side lost: the corps calls Russian losses above expectations and gives no number.
This story is about two armies each announcing on the same day that they had taken villages in eastern Ukraine.
How it got here. Russia's war on Ukraine began in 2014, when Russia annexed Crimea and armed separatists seized parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, together called the Donbas. In February 2022 Russia launched a full-scale invasion. In September 2022 Moscow declared four Ukrainian regions, Donetsk among them, part of Russia. Almost no country recognises that; under international law the land is Ukraine's, and the parts Russia holds are occupied. Russia calls occupied Donetsk region the 'DNR', or 'Donetsk People's Republic'.
The town of Lyman, in northern Donetsk region, was taken by Russia in May 2022 and retaken by Ukraine that October. It has been near the front ever since. Dobropillia is a town further south-west in the same region.
The actors. Russia's defence ministry issues a daily list of places it says its forces have taken; Russian state and private outlets carry it. Ukraine's Third Army Corps, commanded by Andriy Biletskyi, is fighting on the Lyman axis. According to Espreso TV, it has named its offensive there 'Vivaldi', after the four seasons.
What is at stake. Moscow has said it wants all of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Each village either side takes changes how close that is. Each claim is also a message to the other side, to allies and to any talks.
Where it stands. Both militaries say they are advancing. Territory claimed is not territory held, and no outside source in the reporting we hold has checked either claim.
What is being argued about
- Russia's ministry claims five settlements in a day and names two in the text we hold
- Ukraine's Third Corps names one new village and keeps others secret on purpose
- Both sides use 'liberated' for their own gains
- Neither side's reports mention the other's claim or give a casualty figure
Claims and verdicts
Российские военные за сутки освободили пять населенных пунктов
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What we have measured
Actor label Calls Ukraine's president the head of a regime in the report's own voice. ×1Actor named names Ukraine's forces as the attacker of the town ×1Actor named Ukraine's armed forces are named outright as the side attacking the town ×1Actor named Names the organiser and says he is under arrest ×1
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Interfax
Взятие под контроль Гулево и Марьевки создало условия для продвижения дальше на добропольском направлении
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What we have measured
A checkable claim passed on unchecked relays the president's statistic about world cities in quotation marks with no check and no counter-voice ×1A denial carried as characterisation press reports are labelled planted, and the label is passed on in the report's own voice ×1Anonymous source The meetings are sourced to unnamed people familiar with the situation. ×1Anyone hurt named or counted injuries described in clinical detail; the man is never named ×1
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RIA Novosti
ВС России, освобождая Гулево и Марьевку, применили нестандартные приемы
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What we have measured
Actor named no attacker named; the channels only 'said' there were failures ×1Actor named the outage is reported with no actor named ×1Actor named 'the West' is named as acting, attributed to the foreign ministry spokeswoman ×1Actor named headline names Ukraine's armed forces as the attacker ×1
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Сили оборони звільнили нові села на півночі Донеччини в межах операції "Вівальді", — начштабу Третього корпусу
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What we have measured
Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the shift to combat use. ×1Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the data-centre strike. Nobody is named behind the DDoS attack. ×1Actor named for the decision Names the EU Council as the body that acted and gives the date and the new expiry date. ×1Adopted wording The company's own word 'minor' sits next to the report's flat statement that customers could not send or receive parcels. ×1
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Obozrevatel
Россияне вопиют: "Тройка" Билецкого парализовала работу "Рубикона"
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What we have measured
Actor label Names the attacker as 'occupiers' and gives 12 hurt, with no one cited as counting ×1Actor named no attacker named; the drone 'hit near' the building ×1Actor named No actor is named, and the headline puts the hit near the building rather than on it. ×1Actors left vague the neighbouring countries are not named ×1
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Сили оборони звільнили нові села на півночі Донеччини в межах операції "Вівальді", — начштабу Третього корпусу
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What we have measured
Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the shift to combat use. ×1Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the data-centre strike. Nobody is named behind the DDoS attack. ×1Actor named for the decision Names the EU Council as the body that acted and gives the date and the new expiry date. ×1Adopted wording The company's own word 'minor' sits next to the report's flat statement that customers could not send or receive parcels. ×1
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Who wrote it
Coverage, outlet by outlet
Сили оборони звільнили нові села на півночі Донеччини в межах операції "Вівальді", — начштабу Третього корпусу
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What we have measured
Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the shift to combat use. ×1Actor named Russia is named as the actor in the data-centre strike. Nobody is named behind the DDoS attack. ×1Actor named for the decision Names the EU Council as the body that acted and gives the date and the new expiry date. ×1Adopted wording The company's own word 'minor' sits next to the report's flat statement that customers could not send or receive parcels. ×1
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ВС России, освобождая Гулево и Марьевку, применили нестандартные приемы
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What we have measured
Actor named no attacker named; the channels only 'said' there were failures ×1Actor named the outage is reported with no actor named ×1Actor named 'the West' is named as acting, attributed to the foreign ministry spokeswoman ×1Actor named headline names Ukraine's armed forces as the attacker ×1
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Российские военные за сутки освободили пять населенных пунктов
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What we have measured
Actor label Calls Ukraine's president the head of a regime in the report's own voice. ×1Actor named names Ukraine's forces as the attacker of the town ×1Actor named Ukraine's armed forces are named outright as the side attacking the town ×1Actor named Names the organiser and says he is under arrest ×1
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Россияне вопиют: "Тройка" Билецкого парализовала работу "Рубикона"
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What we have measured
Actor label Names the attacker as 'occupiers' and gives 12 hurt, with no one cited as counting ×1Actor named no attacker named; the drone 'hit near' the building ×1Actor named No actor is named, and the headline puts the hit near the building rather than on it. ×1Actors left vague the neighbouring countries are not named ×1
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Взятие под контроль Гулево и Марьевки создало условия для продвижения дальше на добропольском направлении
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What we have measured
A checkable claim passed on unchecked relays the president's statistic about world cities in quotation marks with no check and no counter-voice ×1A denial carried as characterisation press reports are labelled planted, and the label is passed on in the report's own voice ×1Anonymous source The meetings are sourced to unnamed people familiar with the situation. ×1Anyone hurt named or counted injuries described in clinical detail; the man is never named ×1
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