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Interfax says Lavrov and Rubio talked for 52 minutes, Vedomosti 'almost an hour' — no report says what they agreed

The Russian and US foreign ministers met in New York on 23 September, on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly. We hold five reports on the meeting. Three give its length, in three different ways. None says what was said.

Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на "полях" Генассамблеи ООН продлилась 52 минуты
Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на "полях" Генассамблеи ООН продлилась 52 минуты as published by Interfax · seen at Interfax

What is settled. Sergei Lavrov, Russia's foreign minister, and Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, met in New York on 23 September. Interfax, Regnum, Ukrainska Pravda and Anadolu Agency all carry the meeting on that date.

How long. Three Russian outlets give three measures.

Outlet Length What else it carries
Interfax "52 minutes" nothing more in the lines we hold
Vedomosti "almost an hour" headline only
Regnum "about an hour" no opening remarks for the press; closed format
Ukrainska Pravda — "details of the meeting are not disclosed"
Anadolu Agency — talks "expected to address relations, Ukraine war"

The three lengths fit each other. Only Interfax gives an exact figure, and it names no source for it.

Whose record. Ukrainska Pravda says the photographs came from the Russian foreign ministry's spokeswoman. None of the five reports cites a US account of the talks. Anadolu gives the agenda as an expectation and does not say whose.

What is not settled. - What was discussed, and whether anything was agreed. No report we hold says. - Whether Ukraine came up. Anadolu expected it; no report confirms it. - Who is withholding the details. Ukrainska Pravda does not say. - For three of the five reports we hold only the opening lines. For Vedomosti we hold only the headline.

What this is about. The top diplomats of Russia and the United States met in private in New York, and almost nothing about the meeting has been made public.

How it got here. Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 and backed armed separatists in Ukraine's east. On 24 February 2022 it launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The United States and its European allies responded with sanctions on Russia and with weapons and money for Ukraine. For three years there was little high-level contact between Washington and Moscow.

That changed after Donald Trump returned to the White House in January 2025. His administration said it wanted to end the war through negotiation. Rubio and Lavrov met in Riyadh in February 2025, and Trump met Vladimir Putin in Alaska in August 2025. No settlement of the war has followed.

The actors. - Sergei Lavrov has been Russia's foreign minister since 2004. - Marco Rubio has been US secretary of state since January 2025. - Ukraine is the country being fought over. No report we hold says it took part in this meeting. - The UN General Assembly is the body where every UN member state has a seat. Its yearly session opens in New York each September, and ministers use the days around it for private meetings like this one.

What is at stake. Any understanding between the US and Russia on the war would bear directly on Ukraine and on the European governments backing Kyiv. With no public account of the meeting, all of them are left to guess, and so are readers.

Where it stands. The meeting took place and ended on 23 September. In the reports we hold, the only public record is its length and photographs released by the Russian side.

The story so far

Earlier stories The AI Times filed on this thread.

What is being argued about

  • How long the meeting lasted: 52 minutes, almost an hour, or about an hour
  • Who released the only record of it: the Russian foreign ministry's spokeswoman
  • Whether the war in Ukraine was on the table: expected, not confirmed
  • Why no report carries a US account of the talks
Five reports, one meeting: what each one carriesSide by side
OutletLength givenSource namedWhat the talks covered
Interfax52 minutesnonenot reported
Vedomostialmost an hournonenot reported
Regnumabout an hournonenot reported; closed format, no press remarks
Ukrainska Pravdanone givenRussian foreign ministry spokeswoman (photographs)'details not disclosed'
Anadolu Agencynone givennone'expected to address relations, Ukraine war'
We hold only the headline and opening lines of every report except Anadolu Agency's.
Sources I Interfax
Centre estimate · not a score
Interfax 🇷🇺RU · digital · Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на "полях" Генассамблеи ООН продлилась 52 минуты Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Interfax → What we have measured A checkable claim passed on unchecked relays the president's statistic about world cities in quotation marks with no check and no counter-voice ×1A denial carried as characterisation press reports are labelled planted, and the label is passed on in the report's own voice ×1Anonymous source The meetings are sourced to unnamed people familiar with the situation. ×1Anyone hurt named or counted injuries described in clinical detail; the man is never named ×1 from 7627 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
V Vedomosti
Centre-right estimate · not a score
Vedomosti 🇷🇺RU · digital · Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на полях ГА ООН продлилась почти час Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Vedomosti → What we have measured Actor named names Russia as the state actor, not the company, and frames it neutrally ×1Asserted vs attributed the headline attributes the attacks to Novak ×1Asserted vs attributed Attributes the attack count to Novak in the headline. ×1Attribution figure stated flat with no source named, and tied to 2027 ×1 from 6447 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
R Regnum
Right estimate · not a score
Regnum 🇷🇺RU · digital · Переговоры Лаврова и Рубио на полях Генассамблеи ООН продлились около часа Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Regnum → What we have measured Actor label Calls Ukraine's president the head of a regime in the report's own voice. ×1Actor named names Ukraine's forces as the attacker of the town ×1Actor named Ukraine's armed forces are named outright as the side attacking the town ×1Actor named Names the organiser and says he is under arrest ×1 from 11156 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
U Ukrainska Pravda
Centre estimate · not a score
Ukrainska Pravda 🇺🇦UA · digital · independent Рубіо зустрівся з Лавровим під час Генасамблеї ООН у Нью-Йорку Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Ukrainska Pravda → What we have measured Actor named shortages are described with no one named as causing them ×1Actor named The cancellation is pinned on a named Hungarian official's refusal. ×1Actor named The town is called 'occupied', but the lede does not name who occupies it or who blocks aid. ×1Actor named Names the EU and partners as the ones paying ×1 from 7025 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
Anadolu Agency
State / loyalist estimate · not a score
Anadolu Agency 🇹🇷TR · state agency · state-controlled US secretary of state, Russian foreign minister meet on sidelines of UN General Assembly Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Anadolu Agency → What we have measured Actor named Names five governments as the ones that suspended flights, and ties it to US sanctions ×1Asserted vs expected the agenda is given as an expectation, not an outcome ×1Assertion vs attribution Credits the continuing investigation to the FDA by name ×1Attributed or stated the adviser's judgement on rates is stated as sight, not as a claim he made ×1 from 6606 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
Five reports in ten minutes on 23 SeptemberTimeline
  1. 2026-09-2314:15 published time Interfax Meeting over; talks lasted 52 minutes 52 minutes
  2. 2026-09-2314:15 published time Ukrainska Pravda Meeting held; details not disclosed; photographs from the Russian foreign ministry's spokeswoman
  3. 2026-09-2314:17 published time Regnum Talks lasted about an hour, behind closed doors about an hour
  4. 2026-09-2314:20 published time Anadolu Agency Talks expected to address relations and the Ukraine war
  5. 2026-09-2314:25 published time Vedomosti Meeting lasted almost an hour almost an hour
Times are the outlets' own publication times, in UTC.
Sources I Interfax
Centre estimate · not a score
Interfax 🇷🇺RU · digital · Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на "полях" Генассамблеи ООН продлилась 52 минуты Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Interfax → What we have measured A checkable claim passed on unchecked relays the president's statistic about world cities in quotation marks with no check and no counter-voice ×1A denial carried as characterisation press reports are labelled planted, and the label is passed on in the report's own voice ×1Anonymous source The meetings are sourced to unnamed people familiar with the situation. ×1Anyone hurt named or counted injuries described in clinical detail; the man is never named ×1 from 7627 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
U Ukrainska Pravda
Centre estimate · not a score
Ukrainska Pravda 🇺🇦UA · digital · independent Рубіо зустрівся з Лавровим під час Генасамблеї ООН у Нью-Йорку Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Ukrainska Pravda → What we have measured Actor named shortages are described with no one named as causing them ×1Actor named The cancellation is pinned on a named Hungarian official's refusal. ×1Actor named The town is called 'occupied', but the lede does not name who occupies it or who blocks aid. ×1Actor named Names the EU and partners as the ones paying ×1 from 7025 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
R Regnum
Right estimate · not a score
Regnum 🇷🇺RU · digital · Переговоры Лаврова и Рубио на полях Генассамблеи ООН продлились около часа Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Regnum → What we have measured Actor label Calls Ukraine's president the head of a regime in the report's own voice. ×1Actor named names Ukraine's forces as the attacker of the town ×1Actor named Ukraine's armed forces are named outright as the side attacking the town ×1Actor named Names the organiser and says he is under arrest ×1 from 11156 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
Anadolu Agency
State / loyalist estimate · not a score
Anadolu Agency 🇹🇷TR · state agency · state-controlled US secretary of state, Russian foreign minister meet on sidelines of UN General Assembly Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Anadolu Agency → What we have measured Actor named Names five governments as the ones that suspended flights, and ties it to US sanctions ×1Asserted vs expected the agenda is given as an expectation, not an outcome ×1Assertion vs attribution Credits the continuing investigation to the FDA by name ×1Attributed or stated the adviser's judgement on rates is stated as sight, not as a claim he made ×1 from 6606 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
V Vedomosti
Centre-right estimate · not a score
Vedomosti 🇷🇺RU · digital · Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на полях ГА ООН продлилась почти час Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Vedomosti → What we have measured Actor named names Russia as the state actor, not the company, and frames it neutrally ×1Asserted vs attributed the headline attributes the attacks to Novak ×1Asserted vs attributed Attributes the attack count to Novak in the headline. ×1Attribution figure stated flat with no source named, and tied to 2027 ×1 from 6447 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
The bias in this coverageBias

Three measures of one meeting

The reports agree on the meeting and disagree only on how long it lasted: 52 minutes, almost an hour, about an hour. None reports what was said. One says the details are not being disclosed and does not say by whom.

3 reports that give a length 3 different lengths given 0 reports that say what was agreed or discussed 5 reports in the set
Scored without the mastheads. Where the two passes differ, both are kept.
Sources I Interfax
Centre estimate · not a score
Interfax 🇷🇺RU · digital · Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на "полях" Генассамблеи ООН продлилась 52 минуты Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Interfax → What we have measured A checkable claim passed on unchecked relays the president's statistic about world cities in quotation marks with no check and no counter-voice ×1A denial carried as characterisation press reports are labelled planted, and the label is passed on in the report's own voice ×1Anonymous source The meetings are sourced to unnamed people familiar with the situation. ×1Anyone hurt named or counted injuries described in clinical detail; the man is never named ×1 from 7627 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
V Vedomosti
Centre-right estimate · not a score
Vedomosti 🇷🇺RU · digital · Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на полях ГА ООН продлилась почти час Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Vedomosti → What we have measured Actor named names Russia as the state actor, not the company, and frames it neutrally ×1Asserted vs attributed the headline attributes the attacks to Novak ×1Asserted vs attributed Attributes the attack count to Novak in the headline. ×1Attribution figure stated flat with no source named, and tied to 2027 ×1 from 6447 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
R Regnum
Right estimate · not a score
Regnum 🇷🇺RU · digital · Переговоры Лаврова и Рубио на полях Генассамблеи ООН продлились около часа Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Regnum → What we have measured Actor label Calls Ukraine's president the head of a regime in the report's own voice. ×1Actor named names Ukraine's forces as the attacker of the town ×1Actor named Ukraine's armed forces are named outright as the side attacking the town ×1Actor named Names the organiser and says he is under arrest ×1 from 11156 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
U Ukrainska Pravda
Centre estimate · not a score
Ukrainska Pravda 🇺🇦UA · digital · independent Рубіо зустрівся з Лавровим під час Генасамблеї ООН у Нью-Йорку Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Ukrainska Pravda → What we have measured Actor named shortages are described with no one named as causing them ×1Actor named The cancellation is pinned on a named Hungarian official's refusal. ×1Actor named The town is called 'occupied', but the lede does not name who occupies it or who blocks aid. ×1Actor named Names the EU and partners as the ones paying ×1 from 7025 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
Anadolu Agency
State / loyalist estimate · not a score
Anadolu Agency 🇹🇷TR · state agency · state-controlled US secretary of state, Russian foreign minister meet on sidelines of UN General Assembly Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Anadolu Agency → What we have measured Actor named Names five governments as the ones that suspended flights, and ties it to US sanctions ×1Asserted vs expected the agenda is given as an expectation, not an outcome ×1Assertion vs attribution Credits the continuing investigation to the FDA by name ×1Attributed or stated the adviser's judgement on rates is stated as sight, not as a claim he made ×1 from 6606 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →

Claims and verdicts

No claims registered.

Who wrote it

B Berk Kutay Gökmen Anadolu Agency
What the bias passes found in their reporting
Asserted vs expected the agenda is given as an expectation, not an outcome×1
Expectation with no source Says what the talks were 'expected' to cover without saying who expected it.×1
From 30 reports we hold under this byline, at Anadolu Agency. Two independent readings, each made without the masthead, a quote attached to every tag. A record, never a rating. Their full record →
А Анастасія Проц Ukrainska Pravda
What the bias passes found in their reporting
Actor named shortages are described with no one named as causing them×1
Actor named The town is called 'occupied', but the lede does not name who occupies it or who blocks aid.×1
Actor named The cancellation is pinned on a named Hungarian official's refusal.×1
Attributed measured The Council of Europe commissioner is named and attributed, and describes shortages, not famine.×1
Claims we checked that rest on their reporting
1 disputed3 unverified
From 350 reports we hold under this byline, at Ukrainska Pravda. Two independent readings, each made without the masthead, a quote attached to every tag. A record, never a rating. Their full record →
О Ольга Ковальчук Ukrainska Pravda
What the bias passes found in their reporting
Headline verdict the headline judges the summit as having produced nothing and puts 'historic' in scare quotes×1
Headline verdict The headline states flatly that the summit produced no result and puts 'historic' in scare quotes×1
Name the gap says outright that no details were released×1
No actor named for the silence Says the details are not being disclosed without saying who is withholding them. The only named source is the Russian ministry's spokeswoman, for the photo.×1
From 240 reports we hold under this byline, at Ukrainska Pravda. Two independent readings, each made without the masthead, a quote attached to every tag. A record, never a rating. Their full record →
The bylines on the reports this story is built from. Hover one for what our passes have measured on their reporting. · 3 reports we hold carry no byline — we do not invent one.

Coverage, outlet by outlet

V Vedomosti
Centre-right estimate · not a score
Vedomosti 🇷🇺RU · digital · Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на полях ГА ООН продлилась почти час Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Vedomosti → What we have measured Actor named names Russia as the state actor, not the company, and frames it neutrally ×1Asserted vs attributed the headline attributes the attacks to Novak ×1Asserted vs attributed Attributes the attack count to Novak in the headline. ×1Attribution figure stated flat with no source named, and tied to 2027 ×1 from 6447 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
—
Rounds the length to 'almost an hour'. We hold only its headline.
Переговоры главы МИД РФ Сергея Лаврова и госсекретаря США Марко Рубио на полях Генеральной Ассамблеи ООН завершились, сообщили «РИА Новости». Встреча продлилась 52 минуты. С российской стороны в переговорах также приняли участие постпред при ООН Василий Небензя, посол Александр Дарчиев, директор департамента Северной Атлантики Александр Гусаров, официальный представитель МИД Мария Захарова и директор департамента внешнеполитического планирования Алексей Дробинин. 23 сентября Лавров прибыл в Нью-Йорк для участия в мероприятиях недели высокого уровня 81-й сессии Генассамблеи ООН. Глава МИД РФ та
Measure chosen: Rounds the length up to 'almost an hour'. — “продлилась почти час”
Measure chosen: rounded up: 'almost an hour' — “продлилась почти час”
Read it at Vedomosti → https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/2026/09/23/1231229-vstrecha-lavr…
Anadolu Agency
State / loyalist estimate · not a score
Anadolu Agency 🇹🇷TR · state agency · state-controlled US secretary of state, Russian foreign minister meet on sidelines of UN General Assembly Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Anadolu Agency → What we have measured Actor named Names five governments as the ones that suspended flights, and ties it to US sanctions ×1Asserted vs expected the agenda is given as an expectation, not an outcome ×1Assertion vs attribution Credits the continuing investigation to the FDA by name ×1Attributed or stated the adviser's judgement on rates is stated as sight, not as a claim he made ×1 from 6606 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
— state-controlled
The only report to name an agenda, relations and the Ukraine war, and it gives that as expected, not as discussed.
Expectation with no source: Says what the talks were 'expected' to cover without saying who expected it. — “Talks expected to address relations, Ukraine war”
Asserted vs expected: the agenda is given as an expectation, not an outcome — “Talks expected to address relations, Ukraine war”
Read it at Anadolu Agency → https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-secretary-of-state-russian-foreign…
R Regnum
Right estimate · not a score
Regnum 🇷🇺RU · digital · Переговоры Лаврова и Рубио на полях Генассамблеи ООН продлились около часа Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Regnum → What we have measured Actor label Calls Ukraine's president the head of a regime in the report's own voice. ×1Actor named names Ukraine's forces as the attacker of the town ×1Actor named Ukraine's armed forces are named outright as the side attacking the town ×1Actor named Names the organiser and says he is under arrest ×1 from 11156 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
—
The only report on the format: no opening remarks for the press, then closed doors.
Министр иностранных дел России Сергей Лавров и госсекретарь США Марко Рубио 23 сентября завершили переговоры, которые прошли на полях Генассамблеи ООН. Беседа длилась около часа. Она началась без вступительных слов для прессы и продолжилась в закрытом формате. Лавров прибыл в Нью-Йорк ранее в этот ж...
Format reported, not substance: Reports the length and the closed format. Says nothing about what was discussed. — “Она началась без вступительных слов для прессы и продолжилась в закрытом формате.”
Measure chosen: approximate: 'about an hour', plus closed-door format — “Она началась без вступительных слов для прессы и продолжилась в закрытом формате.”
Read it at Regnum → https://regnum.ru/news/4063558
I Interfax
Centre estimate · not a score
Interfax 🇷🇺RU · digital · Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на "полях" Генассамблеи ООН продлилась 52 минуты Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Interfax → What we have measured A checkable claim passed on unchecked relays the president's statistic about world cities in quotation marks with no check and no counter-voice ×1A denial carried as characterisation press reports are labelled planted, and the label is passed on in the report's own voice ×1Anonymous source The meetings are sourced to unnamed people familiar with the situation. ×1Anyone hurt named or counted injuries described in clinical detail; the man is never named ×1 from 7627 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
—
The only report with an exact length: 52 minutes, stated with no source.
Встреча Лаврова и Рубио на "полях" Генассамблеи ООН продлилась 52 минуты Есть обновление от 18:02 → Рубио сказал, что и РФ, и Украина заинтересованы в прекращении ударов по объектам энергетики Cергей Лавров (второй слева) и госсекретарь США Марко Рубио (справа) во время встречи на полях 81-й сессии Генассамблеи ООН Фото: Пресс-служба МИД РФ/ТАСС Москва. 23 сентября. INTERFAX.RU - Главы внешнеполитических ведомств РФ и США Сергей Лавров и Марко Рубио завершили встречу в Нью-Йорке "на полях" ГА ООН, переговоры продлились 52 минуты. Это была уже пятая встреча глав внешнеполитических ведомств двух
Measure chosen: Gives the length to the minute, as a flat fact with no source. — “переговоры продлились 52 минуты”
Measure chosen: exact duration given — “продлилась 52 минуты”
Read it at Interfax → https://www.interfax.ru/world/1118000
U Ukrainska Pravda
Centre estimate · not a score
Ukrainska Pravda 🇺🇦UA · digital · independent Рубіо зустрівся з Лавровим під час Генасамблеї ООН у Нью-Йорку Open this report in The AI Times → Read it at Ukrainska Pravda → What we have measured Actor named shortages are described with no one named as causing them ×1Actor named The cancellation is pinned on a named Hungarian official's refusal. ×1Actor named The town is called 'occupied', but the lede does not name who occupies it or who blocks aid. ×1Actor named Names the EU and partners as the ones paying ×1 from 7025 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
— independent
Says the details are not disclosed, and that the photographs came from the Russian foreign ministry's spokeswoman.
Держсекретар США Марко Рубіо та глава МЗС Росії Сергєй Лавров 23 вересня провели закриту зустріч у Нью-Йорку на полях Генеральної асамблеї ООН. Джерело: "Європейська правда" з посиланням на допис речниці російського МЗС Марії Захарової Деталі: Лавров та Рубіо зустрілися на полях Генеральної асамблеї ООН у Нью-Йорку. Захарова опублікувала фото із зустрічі Рубіо та Лаврова у Нью-Йорку, зазначивши, що переговори відбуваються у закритому форматі. Про деталі переговорів двох міністрів поки невідомо. Що передувало: Напередодні президент Володимир Зеленський зустрівся зі своїм американським колегою Д
No actor named for the silence: Says the details are not being disclosed without saying who is withholding them. The only named source is the Russian ministry's spokeswoman, for the photo. — “Деталі зустрічі не розкриваються.”
Only source named: The photo comes from the Russian side. No US source is named. — “Фото переговорів опублікувала речниця російського МЗС.”
Whose record: the only picture of the talks came from the Russian ministry's spokeswoman — “Фото переговорів опублікувала речниця російського МЗС.”
Name the gap: says outright that no details were released — “Деталі зустрічі не розкриваються.”
Read it at Ukrainska Pravda → https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2026/09/23/8054766/
Checked, didn’t cover
International Court of Justice
Spectrum not set estimate · not a score
International Court of Justice INT · official record · intergovernmental body No report held from this outlet on this story. What we have measured Nothing scored yet. We do not carry a rating for any outlet — only what we have measured from published text. Outlet profile in The AI Times →
International Criminal Court
Spectrum not set estimate · not a score
International Criminal Court INT · official record · intergovernmental body No report held from this outlet on this story. What we have measured Nothing scored yet. We do not carry a rating for any outlet — only what we have measured from published text. Outlet profile in The AI Times →
UN News
Spectrum not set estimate · not a score
UN News INT · official record · intergovernmental body No report held from this outlet on this story. What we have measured Actors named Names both vetoing states and the sponsor, and says what the draft would have created ×1Asserted versus attributed share of women and children among the dead given with no source ×1Asserted vs attributed Israel named as acting, stated in the report's own voice ×1Asymmetric verb The Iranian government's crimes are 'confirmed'. The US finding is only 'reasonable grounds'. The two findings are weighted differently in one sentence. ×1 from 439 articles we hold · quote attached Outlet profile in The AI Times →
Silence is recorded, not inferred — each of these was read when we built this story and carried nothing on this event.

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